2024-01-12
00:00:37Z
R6WAX_Tagir
i'll finish soon too)
00:00:40Z
R6WAX_Tagir
73
00:01:10Z
ON1RC Chris
bye
02:45:16Z
R6WAX_Tagir
gn all ) 73
04:09:13Z
EA2ARU_Jabi
GM to all.
04:27:44Z
zs1sci_ohan
GM
04:46:02Z
EA2ARU_Jabi
Ohan: is possible to send me (or download) the last PlutoDVB2-0.4-1-g84e7e5d for test it?
05:15:12Z
zs1sci_ohan
dude is that the only question you're going me everytime I am online?
05:15:33Z
zs1sci_ohan
we are still testing and its not ready...
05:15:51Z
zs1sci_ohan
Im going to say the same thing everytime. so please stop asking me.
05:16:01Z
zs1sci_ohan
until we release it!
05:16:47Z
zs1sci_ohan
good bye
05:39:30Z
UN6PD_Nikolai
Hello ALL
05:44:11Z
zs1sci_ohan
SigReport: EA3IGB/"SDRAngel ejp290" - D4.0 - QPSK 3/4 (8.0 dB) - 124kS 10498.29 Buffer delays, video: 657.1ms - 1.2m offset
05:44:27Z
zs1sci_ohan
very nice 125ks signal :)
05:46:13Z
zs1sci_ohan
hello Nikolai
06:02:10Z
PA3BYV Poll
gm all
06:03:18Z
DL5BCA Thomas
GM @ all
06:03:34Z
PA3BYV Poll
gm Thomas
06:04:44Z
DL5BCA Thomas
GM Poll - im Moment sehe ich noch nichts, ich muss den Winterhill neu starten.
06:05:27Z
PA3BYV Poll
ok, dein Signal ist auch etwas swach, D1 hier
06:06:03Z
PA3BYV Poll
jetzt D0 mit dehn Nachbar neben deine QRG\
06:06:20Z
PA3BYV Poll
D3 jetzt
06:07:21Z
DL5BCA Thomas
ganz komisch - es wird mir jeweils schwarze Bildschirme angezeigt, die Daten dafür auch, jecoh kein Bild
06:07:39Z
DL5BCA Thomas
Die Bake geht.. hmmmm
06:07:45Z
PA3BYV Poll
gm Jabi
06:08:36Z
DL5BCA Thomas
OK EA2ARU geht auch....
06:10:47Z
DL4FBN Reinhard
GM all
06:12:21Z
DB8XO Joachim
gm all, Reinhard, Poll, and Thomas
06:12:35Z
PA3BYV Poll
gm Joachim
06:13:36Z
DL5BCA Thomas
Gm Joachim
06:14:30Z
EA2ARU_Jabi
I'm sorry, Ohan. If I ask you for information, it is that I use it to write articles in the magazine of Spanish radio amateurs of the URE.
06:32:22Z
DL4FBN Reinhard
73 all
06:38:14Z
zs1sci_ohan
@Jabi, Sorry, I lost my cool. I do appreciate your eagerness to learn and share information with your circles. Observing past release processes has taught us a few things about rapid release cycles. Hours were spent on supporting misconfigs and other related things, but this cost a lot in terms of time and support queries, which ultimately is our spare time. I have a full-time programming job during the day, and when time allows, I jump into DATV-Red with the intent to always improve the experience for myself and the end user. So then, when that time is spent in support, it removes the enjoyment factor. We will publicly share new information once all tests pass, and we are confident that we are not going to hamper the end-user experience for all and ultimately ourselves.
06:40:00Z
DB8XO Joachim
73 all
06:40:42Z
PA3BYV Poll
73 all
06:41:24Z
zs1sci_ohan
73's
06:54:07Z
on8yy charles
gm a tous
07:06:02Z
F5PQL_Jean-luc
Hi zs1sci_ohan, take the time to take care of the little family ;) What you have already done is enormous and thank you very much for that...
08:55:07Z
DB4ZW_Peter
Guten Morgen All..
08:55:49Z
DJ0QO René
GM all too
08:58:45Z
zs1sci_ohan
SigReport: DG4DUL/"Portsdown 4" - D6.4 - QPSK 2/3 (9.5 dB) - 66kS 10497.295 Buffer delays, video: 1212.9ms - 1.2m offset
08:59:11Z
zs1sci_ohan
constellation looks good :)
08:59:29Z
DJ0QO René
to the developers, I agree with Jean-Luc's words. I too have seen the Pluto not yet released test version but have not found it as a beta for download so I will have to wait until it is available. The progress of V-3.96 especially in VVC is remarkable. (the CPU load has halved compared to before) We must not forget that amateur radio is just a hobby and should be prioritised behind health, family and job. A big thank you to the DATV end developers. Stay with your family for a long time and stay with us. Don't worry, take it easy 55 73
08:59:54Z
DL5OCD_Michael
GM all
09:00:12Z
zs1sci_ohan
hello!
09:00:21Z
zs1sci_ohan
thx Rene
09:00:26Z
f5oeo_evariste
Hi all
09:00:53Z
zs1sci_ohan
yes VVC CPU usage is now even lower than v3.96
09:01:09Z
zs1sci_ohan
hallO!
09:01:59Z
DL5OCD_Michael
Hi Ohan, VVC is still chellanging, but it is on a good way...
09:02:20Z
zs1sci_ohan
true. made big leaps yesterday
09:02:23Z
zs1sci_ohan
:)
09:02:40Z
EA2ARU_Jabi
Hello Ohan again: I understand and fully agree with your approach. I look forward to hearing from you.
09:02:41Z
DL5OCD_Michael
i, sae your comments on TT, nice!
09:02:41Z
zs1sci_ohan
audio delay is -0.45s from -2.15 too :)
09:03:02Z
zs1sci_ohan
pull latest
09:03:04Z
zs1sci_ohan
and test
09:03:05Z
zs1sci_ohan
:)
09:03:11Z
zs1sci_ohan
i commited this mornig
09:03:26Z
zs1sci_ohan
youll see what I did
09:03:28Z
zs1sci_ohan
:)
09:03:47Z
DL5OCD_Michael
still VVC with ffmpeg or the Fraunhofer app?
09:04:19Z
DL5OCD_Michael
for encoding
09:04:53Z
zs1sci_ohan
ffmpeg
09:05:09Z
zs1sci_ohan
juist the way we setup the bitstream
09:05:22Z
zs1sci_ohan
has changed from static to target and max rate
09:05:43Z
DL5OCD_Michael
k
09:06:16Z
DL5OCD_Michael
i load it and let u know ;)
09:06:16Z
zs1sci_ohan
movement scenes are very rough on encoder complexity and thus bitrate increases, and we get overflows
09:06:28Z
zs1sci_ohan
now string is without muxrate
09:06:52Z
zs1sci_ohan
maxrate = TSrate - Audio bitrate
09:07:00Z
zs1sci_ohan
target = max / 1.5
09:07:12Z
zs1sci_ohan
as per vvencFFapp output
09:07:32Z
zs1sci_ohan
no more repeating messages
09:07:55Z
DL5OCD_Michael
no muxrate means VBR
09:08:00Z
zs1sci_ohan
yes
09:08:03Z
DL5OCD_Michael
hmmm...
09:08:08Z
zs1sci_ohan
cant force vvc to CBR bro
09:08:09Z
zs1sci_ohan
;/
09:08:14Z
DL5OCD_Michael
ok, we try it
09:08:34Z
zs1sci_ohan
so we set is max variations in our static TS pipe
09:08:39Z
zs1sci_ohan
with space for audio
09:08:45Z
zs1sci_ohan
all number use math.floor
09:08:54Z
zs1sci_ohan
so rounded down to closest 1000
09:09:08Z
zs1sci_ohan
rather less than more
09:09:08Z
DL5OCD_Michael
k
09:09:45Z
zs1sci_ohan
using video-compare tool
09:10:04Z
zs1sci_ohan
the difference is neglectable vs previous defaults
09:10:17Z
zs1sci_ohan
yet cpu usage is a lot less
09:10:41Z
DL5OCD_Michael
i reserved 5-10% headroom for VVC in the past, but with ffmpeg 6 everything changes.
09:11:02Z
zs1sci_ohan
longest water world play on qo-100 with vvc
09:11:04Z
zs1sci_ohan
25mins
09:11:07Z
zs1sci_ohan
no issues
09:11:12Z
zs1sci_ohan
lots and lots of movement
09:11:18Z
zs1sci_ohan
always killed decoder
09:12:46Z
DL5OCD_Michael
i found correct shaping depends also on CPU, when at the edge (ffmpeg below x1) it lacks...
09:13:01Z
DL5OCD_Michael
repeating messages
09:13:12Z
zs1sci_ohan
AVX2 max here
09:13:20Z
zs1sci_ohan
my CPU has no AVX512
09:13:22Z
zs1sci_ohan
:(
09:13:29Z
zs1sci_ohan
maybe in April
09:13:51Z
DL5OCD_Michael
will see...
09:14:25Z
zs1sci_ohan
this should not stretch you CPU
09:14:41Z
zs1sci_ohan
we had REne on 3950x AMD using 500ks
09:14:41Z
DL5OCD_Michael
will try it on my fusion reactor ;)
09:14:48Z
zs1sci_ohan
yes please
09:16:08Z
zs1sci_ohan
Rate control : VBR 430 kbps single-pass (max. rate 690 kbps)
09:16:25Z
zs1sci_ohan
copy pasta ffmpeg string paste in DATV-red root folder
09:16:34Z
zs1sci_ohan
see all the juicy details :X
09:16:46Z
zs1sci_ohan
crossing finger it works
09:17:53Z
DL5OCD_Michael
:)
09:23:16Z
zs1sci_ohan
Ch1
09:23:54Z
zs1sci_ohan
poor vvc and this low bitrates ;p
09:24:09Z
zs1sci_ohan
this panning shot spikes the BBFRAME buffer
09:24:25Z
zs1sci_ohan
SigReport: DL1LQ_Joern/"1803" - D4.1 - QPSK 2/3 (7.2 dB) - 499kS 10492.801 Buffer delays, video: 552.3333333333334ms, audio: 341.4ms - 1.2m offset
09:24:29Z
zs1sci_ohan
seriously?
09:24:37Z
zs1sci_ohan
just txing over ?
09:26:30Z
zs1sci_ohan
the idea is the keep BBFRAME buffer < fps
09:26:36Z
zs1sci_ohan
then all seems well
09:29:18Z
DL1LQ Jörn
Thanks Ohan for report
09:29:33Z
zs1sci_ohan
ok...
09:30:05Z
zs1sci_ohan
panning scenes are marked with arrows
09:30:06Z
zs1sci_ohan
XD
09:30:39Z
DL5OCD_Michael
k
09:47:21Z
F5PQL Jean-Luc
Hi zs1sci_ohan, is it possible to use the information from another Longmynd behind an RPI directly in DATVred, example for me I use the ZR6TG version???
09:47:36Z
zs1sci_ohan
this was the encoder for that previous session
09:47:39Z
zs1sci_ohan
2.5hrs
09:48:10Z
zs1sci_ohan
there is no mqtt built in that longmynd Jean-Luc
09:48:18Z
zs1sci_ohan
thats how we get information
09:48:26Z
zs1sci_ohan
and steer longmynd all with mqtt
09:49:17Z
F5PQL Jean-Luc
ok, thanks for this feedback
09:49:47Z
zs1sci_ohan
np
09:51:58Z
zs1sci_ohan
SigReport: PE1JTU/"TV PE1JTU E217" - D6.9 - QPSK 3/4 (10.9 dB) - 499kS 10496.287 Buffer delays, video: 1727.4285714285713ms, audio: 816.2ms - 1.2m offset
10:16:10Z
DM2CFL Hartmut Guten
Guten Tag an Alle...
11:01:19Z
DD4YR_Robert
SigReport: DD4YR/"PlutoDVB2-0.3-31-gaf2c150" - D5.0 - QPSK 3/4 (9.0 dB) - 499kS 10496.293 Buffer delays, video: 879.2ms, audio: 412.8ms - 1,8m PF
11:32:26Z
Chris 2E0ILY
Morning all.
11:35:51Z
Chris 2E0ILY
@DL5OCD_Michael Hi Michael, a quick question please. In 1.5 NotSoEasy without engaging the latest Pluto firmware, I recall setting audio to say 32k was refelcetd in that showing in Open Tuner. Now it seems to show 48k, which is what my Windows and VAC are set to. Do I remember wrongly, or has something changed? Thanks!
11:37:28Z
Chris 2E0ILY
SigReport: DD4YR/PlutoDVB2-0.3-31-gaf2c150(F5OEO) - D5.1 - (9.2 dB) - 498 - 10496.24 with 3.2m PF dish
11:37:53Z
DL5OCD_Michael
Hi Chris, yes, it is new. In OT the audio samplerate is shown, not the audio bitrate. You can change asr now in config.
11:39:25Z
Chris 2E0ILY
Ah, OK, thanks Michael, I thought I was more senile than usual and imagining it it used to be!
12:12:59Z
EA7CTL_Manolo
Saludos a todos....
12:50:49Z
zs1sci_ohan
SigReport: DL5OCD_Michael/"PlutoDVB2-0.3-31-gaf2c150" - D3.1 - QPSK 2/3 (6.2 dB) - 999kS 10493.285 Buffer delays, video: 1509.7ms, audio: 533.4ms, tx delay, 537.2ms - 1.2m offset
12:50:57Z
zs1sci_ohan
nice drone footage
12:51:05Z
DL5OCD_Michael
:)
12:51:13Z
DL5OCD_Michael
testing new VVC settings
12:51:41Z
zs1sci_ohan
:)
12:51:51Z
DL5OCD_Michael
i can go up to 32APSK 9/10 with my CPU.....
12:52:14Z
DL5OCD_Michael
no problem anymore, which is very strange
12:53:04Z
zs1sci_ohan
strange = blood sweat and tears
12:53:21Z
DL5OCD_Michael
BB Framebuffer also ok
12:53:27Z
zs1sci_ohan
:)
12:53:37Z
zs1sci_ohan
cpu usage down hey
12:54:03Z
DL5OCD_Michael
yeah, no CPU usage for VVC anymore...
12:54:11Z
zs1sci_ohan
hehehe, this is why they pay me the big bucks :P
12:54:25Z
DL5OCD_Michael
:)
12:54:36Z
zs1sci_ohan
analysis of VVC TS stream
12:54:43Z
zs1sci_ohan
shows btirate up and down
12:54:49Z
zs1sci_ohan
so no the static rate makes sense
12:54:54Z
DL5OCD_Michael
back to work, testing and cu later...
12:55:01Z
zs1sci_ohan
chow
14:07:13Z
DL4DI Manfred Good Day all
Hi Ohan and Michael..
14:37:33Z
zs1sci_ohan
hello
14:37:41Z
zs1sci_ohan
TSduck to the rescue OM's
14:37:53Z
zs1sci_ohan
Rene you want TS stats for station
14:38:03Z
zs1sci_ohan
you got it bro... thx to TSDuck
14:38:22Z
zs1sci_ohan
and help from Evariste :)
14:48:06Z
DL4FBN Reinhard
SigReport: ZS1SCI/"PlutoDVB2-0.4-1-g84e7e5d(" - D3.2 - QPSK 3/4 (7.2 dB) - 499kS 10492.797 Buffer delays, video: 1800ms, audio: 821ms - 1.2m offset
14:49:21Z
zs1sci_ohan
baie dankie
15:26:43Z
dd8gw_guenter
hallo manfred
15:28:37Z
R6WAX_Tagir
GE All
15:29:56Z
DL4DI Manfred
Hi Guenter
15:30:21Z
DL4DI Manfred
SigReport: R6WAX/PlutoDVB2-0.3-31-gaf2c150(F5OEO) - D-0,1 - (5,1 dB) - 331 - 10497,74
15:31:07Z
R6WAX_Tagir
thx, Manfred )
15:31:47Z
DL4DI Manfred
Hi Tagir .vour Siganal is to Day not so good on my 1 Meter Offset
15:32:44Z
R6WAX_Tagir
hi, may be because i'm using 5/6 fec?
15:33:17Z
R6WAX_Tagir
add little more now )
15:44:41Z
DL4DI Manfred
sorry Tagir , too many Om´S an the Signal is douwn 73 Tagir i see you in the next Time bye bye .
15:55:24Z
G8adm-Dave
F5AJJ - Very good pictures again!
16:12:04Z
F5AJJ Jean Louis
Thank you Dave / G8adm I am trying an excitor made in China. 1W send but only 0.150W in real ... HI....
16:12:51Z
DDØCW_Frank
SigReport: DD0CW_Frank/"PlutoDVB2-0.3-31-gaf2c150" - D4.7 - QPSK 4/5 (9.3 dB) - 499kS 10492.75 Buffer delays, video: 958.9ms, audio: 463.8ms -
16:17:46Z
DL3HQD - Winni
Hallo Frank
16:51:42Z
DL2GHM_Martin
Hallo Hartmut guten Abend.
16:52:29Z
DL2GHM_Martin
👋
16:52:48Z
DL2GHM_Martin
Den Backstein :-)
16:52:57Z
DL2GHM_Martin
im Moment sende ich noch nicht
16:54:53Z
DL2GHM_Martin
So schnell?
18:21:45Z
G8adm-Dave
Robert, DD4YR, very clear picture and good sound.
18:23:03Z
DD4YR_Robert
Hello Dave, ge. Tnx for feedback :-)
19:17:36Z
S56LXB
ct3fm mer6,6 D2,5 nice video and sound
19:36:14Z
ON5AAS Geert
goede avond Albert 73s
19:36:51Z
ON4AAH_Albert
Goeie avond Geert....
19:38:00Z
ON5AAS Geert
Nog verder gedaan aan de PA voor Oscar 100?
19:39:25Z
ON4AAH_Albert
neen Geert, ik heb een andere print met 4X MRF21085
19:40:16Z
ON4AAH_Albert
geeft 48dBm..
19:40:33Z
ON5AAS Geert
dat lijkt mij een uitdaging
19:41:56Z
ON4AAH_Albert
ik zit helemaal rechts met 333ks
20:16:13Z
G0MJW Mike
Just a little test
20:17:42Z
DK3VK_Michael
www.goo
20:18:37Z
G0MJW Mike
That's better, now 1W rather than 800mW
20:23:53Z
G0MJW Mike
2w QRO
20:27:00Z
Chris 2E0ILY
SigReport: G0MJW/0303_Mike - D1.2 - (2.2 dB) - 331 - 10498.76 with 3.2m PF dish
20:27:32Z
G0MJW Mike
D1.0 Here Chris. Dish not quite optimum
20:27:44Z
G0MJW Mike
2.4m
20:29:42Z
G0MJW Mike
It needs 4W for 333ks 3.4 FEC
20:30:01Z
G0MJW Mike
But quality is a lot better
20:31:08Z
Chris 2E0ILY
http://www.chriswilson.tv/g0mjw.jpg There's a some insect in the LNB tube, too idle to get the ladders out and evict it, beacon is down as well, but a good copy of you, andf at 250 as well.
20:32:12Z
SP9ACQ Adam
Hi All
20:32:22Z
Chris 2E0ILY
Hi Adam!
20:33:41Z
SP9ACQ Adam
Hi Chris, so you have insect... hmm....
20:34:21Z
G0MJW Mike
16 PSK doesn't seem to work but 8 PSK does
20:35:09Z
G0MJW Mike
Needs 15W though!
20:35:31Z
Chris 2E0ILY
SigReport: G0MJW/0303_Mike - D1.4 - (10.8 dB) - 331 - 10498.76 with 3.2m PF dish
20:36:10Z
G0MJW Mike
Thanks Chris. Seems system is not too bad compared to previously
20:39:55Z
Chris 2E0ILY
looks in fine fettle to me..
20:44:20Z
PE2TV-Bert
2E0ILY Hello Chris, great signal. I love power is cars.
20:47:25Z
Chris 2E0ILY
Hi Bert, just the day job, but as day jobs go I am not complaining, I still enjoy it!
20:50:40Z
PE2TV-Bert
if that's your day job it's great. do with vintage cars with my son-in-law all Ford, s torino 1968 eanchero f100 largest engine 8 cyl power 600 HP laughing costs tires hi.
20:50:58Z
Chris 2E0ILY
SigReport: PE2TV/0201 - D7.6 - (11.7 dB) - 331 - 10496.73 with 3.2m PF dish
20:51:49Z
Chris 2E0ILY
You can't beat a big pushrod V8 for reliable power and TORQUE!
20:52:41Z
PE2TV-Bert
It is not driven much, it is a pleasure and a show.
20:55:46Z
Chris 2E0ILY
:( Burn some rubber, burn some fuel :)
20:57:23Z
PE2TV-Bert
that's also a very big boy what you show. beautiful.
21:00:01Z
PE2TV-Bert
costs a bit but then you also get something.hi
21:01:57Z
Chris 2E0ILY
Group C cars have been a great investment!
21:06:33Z
G8adm-Dave
Nice antenna...
21:09:58Z
PE2TV-Bert
G8adm who is that for Dave.
21:10:36Z
G8adm-Dave
PE2TV - 600m asl, wow!
21:11:46Z
PE2TV-Bert
great story from this gentleman. you'll go crazy when you see what this gentleman has.
21:12:40Z
Chris 2E0ILY
I love to see these neat little QRP staions ;)
21:12:42Z
G8adm-Dave
Hi Bert, yes he is about to show us!
21:24:40Z
G8adm-Dave
What a great setup, 4KW power, one rack said 20KW, think of the electric bill!!!
21:25:40Z
PE2TV-Bert
The beer has now also become warm, which is a shame.
21:26:41Z
G8adm-Dave
Oh, look at those vales (tubes)...
21:39:21Z
G8HKN-Roger
PE2TV Great footage
21:40:28Z
G8adm-Dave
Yes, it's now gone here...
21:40:35Z
PE2TV-Bert
all great. love it.
21:45:18Z
G8adm-Dave
It's back again...
21:45:53Z
Chris 2E0ILY
Fabulous Bert, both content and quality of transmission. Thanks!
21:46:37Z
G8adm-Dave
Thanks also from me....
21:47:20Z
Chris 2E0ILY
Going to let the dogs out, they are crossing thir legs and wondering what the hell I've been doing. I'll blame Bert!
21:47:40Z
PE2TV-Bert
thanks Chris and dave and roger for the flowers.
22:01:37Z
Chris 2E0ILY
Good night Bert, Dave and all, see you over the weekend hopefully.
23:25:26Z
R6WAX_Tagir
SigReport: DL5OCD_Michael - D4,1 - 498 - 10492,75 1.5 PF Dish
23:25:34Z
R6WAX_Tagir
SigReport: ON8YY - D4,7 - 498 - 10495,22 1.5 PF Dish
23:26:31Z
DL5OCD Michael
tnx Tagir